As to specific dates, it seems obvious that the last Youthful Worthy was selected on Sept. 16, 1954, corresponding to the last Spirit-begettal, which occurred on Sept. 16, 1914, exactly 40 years earlier (E4, pp. 39, 160-164). The date on which the Great Company's Attestatorial Service was due to begin (and did begin!) was Sept. 20, 1954, to correspond with the beginning of the Little Flock's Attestatorial Service exactly 40 years earlier, on Sept. 20, 1914 (P '56, pp. 90,91)...
The purpose of this blog is to draw us closer as Bible students and to encourage us to carefully examine what is said in word and print. Do the things we speak and write with regards to the truth harmonize with His Holy word?--"The Truth never fears cross examination."
Sunday, September 27, 2009
Trinidad - Letters of General Interest
As to specific dates, it seems obvious that the last Youthful Worthy was selected on Sept. 16, 1954, corresponding to the last Spirit-begettal, which occurred on Sept. 16, 1914, exactly 40 years earlier (E4, pp. 39, 160-164). The date on which the Great Company's Attestatorial Service was due to begin (and did begin!) was Sept. 20, 1954, to correspond with the beginning of the Little Flock's Attestatorial Service exactly 40 years earlier, on Sept. 20, 1914 (P '56, pp. 90,91)...
Sunday, September 20, 2009
Two Call Going On At The Same Time?
The current "Executive Trustee" is now contradicting the Bible and God's servants with another new thought. Please listen to the excerpt from the 2009 Ohio convention:
Bro. Russell, P6 page 93:"Nor are we to think of different calls, but are to remember the declaration of the Apostle (Eph. 4: 4), "Ye are called in one hope of your calling." It is a mistake, therefore, for any to think that they have any choice in this matter" ..."Neither is there a second call during this Gospel age, though, as we have previously seen, there is a second class of saved ones selected during this age—the Great Company (Rev. 7: 9-14)"
Bro. Johnson, E4 page 89: "...We are not to understand that during the Gospel Age God has been calling two classes to salvation; for the record is: "Ye are all called in the one hope of your calling" (Eph. 4: 4); that is, we are not to understand that God has been offering two sets of people two different salvations during the Gospel Age, as inducements for them to serve Him; for such a thing is nowhere taught in the Bible..."
Bro. Jolly, PT 1968 page 77: "...the building up of the Epiphany Camp since 1954, the Consecrated Epiphany Campers, the end of the Youthful Worthy call, etc..."
Bro. Jolly, Question 1971 Eph. 4:4: "...We should not be blown about by winds of false doctrine that contradict the plain teachings of the Scriptures, and that claim without any Scriptural basis that the High Calling and the call to Youthful Worthiship are still open. It is no longer true that “we are called in one hope of our calling”— “the high calling of God in Christ Jesus” (Phil. 3: 14). That call or invitation closed forever in 1914, and also the call or invitation for Youthful Worthiship ended forever in 1954, according to the Scriptures (see e.g., Lev. 12; E. 4, pp. 98, 99; P ’58, pp. 91-94; ’59, p. 37)..."
Bro. Hedman: PT 1995 page 86: "...However, we are not to understand that during the Gospel Age (or Church Age) God called two classes to salvation; for the Scripture states, "ye are called in one hope of your calling" (Eph. 4: 4). That is, we are not to understand that God offered two different salvations during the Gospel Age; for such a thing is nowhere taught in the Bible. Rather, there has been only one salvation offered to those who during the Gospel Age would turn from sin to righteousness, from Satan to God and Christ. To all of these God offered as the prize..."
Sunday, September 13, 2009
Ohio, 2009: "1881/36 A.D. General Call/YW"
Here is part of a symposium talk from the Ohio convention, given by a brother from Michigan. It continues the discussion of the Executive Trustee's manufactured Youthful Worthy call in 1878. While we highlight the error on the sealing of the servants for your awareness, our real focus is on the two latter highlights.
"So, we find that the General Call ceased in 1881, just as in the corresponding date of October 36 saw the end of Jewish favor. But although the General Call had ceased, it did not mean that the opportunity to make their calling and election sure had ceased. While the door stood open, it indicated that any believer who was anxious to enter and ready to comply with the conditions, was yet welcome to do so. The door or opportunity to labor and sacrifice had no yet ceased, even though the General Call had ceased in 1881. This was the time for the sealing of the servants of God in their forehead, before the time of trouble started in 1914, as we read of in Revelation 7 verse 3 as you are very familiar with. It says, ‘Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we shall have sealed the servants of our God on their foreheads.’ This means that they were given an intelligent appreciation of heavenly things. God prepared His faithful ones. He prepared them by granting them increased knowledge in His will and plan. But before 1881, none of the deeper truths of God’s plans and purposes could be understood by those who were not begotten of the Spirit. All of the true faithful servants of God needed to appreciate this great privilege. But not only for their own intellectual sealing with the present truth, but also for engaging in the Harvest work of sealing others, those of the wheat class. This was needed to be done before the night cometh of the dark time of trouble and the door of opportunity to labor would be shut. They needed to do as the LORD told them in Luke 13: 24 “Strive to enter thru the narrow gate, for many I say unto you will seek to enter and not be able.” But since who responded under the General Call failed to keep their covenant, the door stood open for some to take their places. But at that time, more people consecrated to the LORD than could be provided crowns. And so these consecrators were not Spirit begotten…begotten of the Spirit. The LORD seemed to hold them in reserve. And as from time to time as crowns were lost by the measurably unfaithful, he selected the most faithful and eligible of these by Spirit begettal to have the lost crowns. And as time when on, a number of these in reserve seemed to have increased more rapidly than the number of those who had lost their crowns. So a large number of them was in reserve, when all of the Elect had been won. Before the General Call ceased in 1881, these non-Spirit begotten ones, as Bro. Russell referred to them, non-Spirit begotten consecrated…excuse me…did not exist as a class. But since that time, they have been so, and continue till today. They are separate and distinct from the Little Flock and Great Company. And what do we call this class? Youthful Worthies…as Bro. Johnson pointed out. And we know brethren, these are referred to many places in the Present Truths…”
In the second highlight, the brother says that only the Spirit-begotten could understand the deeper truths before 1881. That would certainly confuse the Executive Trustee's manufactured 1878-81 Youthful Worthies. But if we turn to E4, page 468, we can see that the brother's statement is accurate because there were no Youthful Worthies during that time: "That the Youthful Worthies understand the deep things is, as we have already indicated, due to the fact that they are consecrated," ... "for between Pentecost and 1881, to which time alone his words are limited, all the consecrated were New Creatures."
In the third highlight, he is most likely summarizing a familiar statement made by Bro. Johnson that is also found in E4 on page 318. We have already shown the proper reading of this statement in English in previous posts: "Before the General Call to the Divine nature and joint-heirship with Christ ceased in 1881, the persons that we call the 'Youthful Worthies' did not exist as individuals of a class; but since that time [the date given, 1881] they [plural, these persons or individuals] have been [in existence], and now [when written, in the Epiphany] are coming as such [a class] into existence, and are showing some evidence of existence as such [a class]."
Thursday, September 10, 2009
Letters of General Interest - R.H. Massachusetts
PT. 1958 Pg. 48: 'Dear Bro. Jolly: Sincere Greetings in the name of our Lord Jesus! I am rejoicing in the latest P.T., especially in the Memorial article. Also, the refutations of the errorist that the Lord has worked through you, dear brother, are proof upon proof as to the one that the Lord has designated as leader of His people at the present time. Please be assured of our prayers on your behalf.
Sunday, September 6, 2009
Ohio, 2009: "1878/33 A.D. Rapture/YW Call"
When someone has to give a discourse that focuses on the Executive Trustee's manufactured "present view" of the Youthful Worthies (based his misread of the Ruth picture in E4), contradictions with other parts of E4 are unavoidable. For instance, here is the transcribed text of a nice Brother from Pennsylvania who had to give a symposium part that included the new Youthful Worthy call date of 1878.
“Now if you notice on your program after the words 1878 / 33 AD and Rapture, there is another slash and then the words YW Call. The Youthful Worthy call was not directly related to the Rapture as such. But we know from our studies that in 1878 the fullness of the Gentiles, as referred to in Romans 11:25, came in. What was the fullness of the Gentiles? The fullness of the Gentiles was the point when the Lord’s predetermined number of places in the Bride of Christ had all been probationally filled. After this, some of these prospective members of the Bride of Christ lost this position due to measureable unfaithfulness. And these were then replaced by others who were already consecrated to whom the Lord then gave Spirit begettal. And I understand that from the time in 1878, when all of the members of Christ’s Bride had been probationally selected until the end of the Youthful Worthy call, any who consecrated were prospective Youthful Worthies, unless they became Spirit begotten, or unless they ceased to be prospective Youthful Worthies due to unfaithfulness. And so we find that we have a time in 1878 when there were many things taking place. It was a very important date in Bible chronology. You know in 12 minutes, brethren, you can’t really say a lot about a subject.”
As we have stressed in previous entries, this "present view" would make Brother Johnson contradict himself before and after the Ruth chapter (see the cover, pages 405, 419, 440, 462, 469, etc.). Is the Executive Trustee telling us that Brother Johnson could not write a book and be in harmony with his own thoughts? Apparently. And the brother who gave this portion, as much as he avoided giving details of the new call, still has to admit to this contradiction.