The purpose of this blog is to draw us closer as Bible students and to encourage us to carefully examine what is said in word and print. Do the things we speak and write with regards to the truth harmonize with His Holy word?--"The Truth never fears cross examination."
Saturday, December 31, 2011
80 ProofsThe High Calling is Ended-Number 22
(22) The manifestation of the Youthful Worthies as a separate and distinct class as early as 1917 (the antitypical men of Ephraim; Judges 7: 24—8: 3; E 5, pp. 224-235), proves that prior to that time the reaping and gleaning of the Little Flock had ended; for the Youthful Worthies could not be known as a separate and distinct class while the Little Flock were still being reaped.
Sunday, December 25, 2011
Permanent Marker Series: The Youthful Worthies Article, PT May-June, 1972, Paragraph 9
With the Winter 2011 PT out for all to read, we not only have a new view on the CECs, but we also have more of Bro. Jolly's Youthful Worthies article reprinted (as part 2). Again, we have to make edits where needed to help the Executive Trustee. Here in paragraph 9, the order of development of the elect classes has no mention of the new and unique idea that the Youthful Worthies became a separate and distinct class during the Harvest.
Friday, December 16, 2011
Finish Their Course - Must Have The Spirit That Would Be Faithful Unto Death
We are very pleased to see the current Executive Trustee actually provide a reference. We do have a recorded copy of Bro. Jolly's explanation to the question that was placed at the Chicago convention in 1971. Unfortunately, We see a few challenges here:
*He brings us partial truth that precedes Bro. Elmer's discourse, and doesn't disclose Bro. Jolly's later thought on the subject::
However, we are not to think that all who consecrate before the Highway of Holiness is opened up must of necessity die. Since some of the Consecrated Epiphany Campers may consecrate, e.g., shortly prior to or during the time of Israel’s national conversion (which we understand is pre-Millennial—E. Vol. 16, p. 130), and thus be living very near to the time of the inauguration of the New Covenant and its restitution blessings, it would be reasonable to suppose that some of them may not die, but live through the remaining portion of the Time of Trouble, and then serve as special assistants to the resurrected Ancient and Youthful Worthies in starting the restitution work...
...Whether those whose lives are spared during the Time of Trouble will include any of the Consecrated Epiphany Campers we are not sure; but of one thing we do feel certain, i.e., to be acceptable to God in their consecrations they must have the spirit that would be faithful unto death, even if they were not to die in every individual case. ’55- 42; ’78-62...
- The current Executive Trustee seems to thrive on being controversial with the Brethren
- *The current Executive Trustee also has difficulties being objective. There are later, printed thoughts from Bro. Jolly that he is ignoring. Also, those of us who personally knew Bro. Elmer know that he believed it possible that some C.E.C.s would not have to die.
- The Current Executive Trustee struggles with semantics. Two come to mind: "Finish their course" and "must have the spirit that would be faithful unto death"
*He brings us partial truth that precedes Bro. Elmer's discourse, and doesn't disclose Bro. Jolly's later thought on the subject::
However, we are not to think that all who consecrate before the Highway of Holiness is opened up must of necessity die. Since some of the Consecrated Epiphany Campers may consecrate, e.g., shortly prior to or during the time of Israel’s national conversion (which we understand is pre-Millennial—E. Vol. 16, p. 130), and thus be living very near to the time of the inauguration of the New Covenant and its restitution blessings, it would be reasonable to suppose that some of them may not die, but live through the remaining portion of the Time of Trouble, and then serve as special assistants to the resurrected Ancient and Youthful Worthies in starting the restitution work...
...Whether those whose lives are spared during the Time of Trouble will include any of the Consecrated Epiphany Campers we are not sure; but of one thing we do feel certain, i.e., to be acceptable to God in their consecrations they must have the spirit that would be faithful unto death, even if they were not to die in every individual case. ’55- 42; ’78-62...
Saturday, December 3, 2011
E. Vol 3 Pgs 105 - 115 Lessons From Elijah and History
105 ..."the present management," in their relation to the Board and the general work, were not keeping the peace and unity that the rest of God's people as a rule were. We fear that they were seeking other things, which interested them more than Zion's welfare.
111-112...the Society among its loyal supporters. Certainly the Society's advocates were surprised and saddened to find the affairs of the Society in the condition in which they were; and certainly did discuss and recognize the organization of the Lord's people, the chariot of Israel, crying out, "the Society! the Society! the Society! the Channel! the Channel! the Channel! We must stand by the Society! We must stand by the Channel! We must defend the Society in its trial! We must be loyal to the Society, because it is the Channel! Whatever the wrong that has been done by the Society leaders, we must nevertheless remember that the Society is the Channel!"...
114-115 ...The fourth activity of Elisha was his rending his own clothes into two pieces. Clothing in the symbols of the Bible represents our graces of heart and mind. "Put on, therefore, as the Elect of God, holy and beloved, bowels of mercy, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, etc." "Be clothed with humility." (Col. 2: 12, 13; 1 Pet. 5: 5.) Other passages along the same line will come to every Bible student's mind. To rend one's clothes would seem to represent doing violence to one's graces, and to rend them in twain would seem to represent such gross violence done to one's graces as to tear them in twain, and thus to expose one's double-mindedness, which is a quality of the Great Company (Jas. 1: 8). This action of Elisha's seems to find a fitting antitype in the violence to Truth, Justice and Love committed by J.F. Rutherford and his supporters against the so-called "Opposition." As an illustration of this gross, unscriptural conduct we refer to J.F. Rutherford's "Harvest Siftings," cruel in itself and grossly deceptive as to facts. All over the world those who stood faithful for "that Servant's" arrangements were treated with gross injustice, lovelessness and misrepresentation by those who rallied to the battle cry, "the channel! the channel!"
All you need to do is change a few names, and the dates...
111-112...the Society among its loyal supporters. Certainly the Society's advocates were surprised and saddened to find the affairs of the Society in the condition in which they were; and certainly did discuss and recognize the organization of the Lord's people, the chariot of Israel, crying out, "the Society! the Society! the Society! the Channel! the Channel! the Channel! We must stand by the Society! We must stand by the Channel! We must defend the Society in its trial! We must be loyal to the Society, because it is the Channel! Whatever the wrong that has been done by the Society leaders, we must nevertheless remember that the Society is the Channel!"...
114-115 ...The fourth activity of Elisha was his rending his own clothes into two pieces. Clothing in the symbols of the Bible represents our graces of heart and mind. "Put on, therefore, as the Elect of God, holy and beloved, bowels of mercy, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, etc." "Be clothed with humility." (Col. 2: 12, 13; 1 Pet. 5: 5.) Other passages along the same line will come to every Bible student's mind. To rend one's clothes would seem to represent doing violence to one's graces, and to rend them in twain would seem to represent such gross violence done to one's graces as to tear them in twain, and thus to expose one's double-mindedness, which is a quality of the Great Company (Jas. 1: 8). This action of Elisha's seems to find a fitting antitype in the violence to Truth, Justice and Love committed by J.F. Rutherford and his supporters against the so-called "Opposition." As an illustration of this gross, unscriptural conduct we refer to J.F. Rutherford's "Harvest Siftings," cruel in itself and grossly deceptive as to facts. All over the world those who stood faithful for "that Servant's" arrangements were treated with gross injustice, lovelessness and misrepresentation by those who rallied to the battle cry, "the channel! the channel!"
All you need to do is change a few names, and the dates...
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