Tuesday, January 26, 2010

Permanent Marker Series: E4, Page 39


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Here is another page that must be updated to harmonize E4 with the "present view" existence of the Youthful Worthies. Page 39 is not easy to modify towards that view because it clearly indicates the date when they are revealed AS A CLASS (a change of condition, not just appearance). Bro. Johnson applies this same usage at the end of the page to show when Rutherford could become "that evil servant" and on other pages to show the Great Company's existence (see p.167 and the references in the manifested destiny post).

So, in order for it to work for the Executive Trustee, we have to apply Bro. Johnson's usage to the new class date of 1881 and then use the incorrect, appearance-only meaning in 1914. It makes a mess of the page, but this is one way to make it work. Note that we then had to fix the similar usage at the bottom of the page to have it match in meaning.

2 comments:

Thornbush said...

This page does not show up on The BIBLE -STANDARD Encyclopedia Disk put out by the LHMM. I wonder why???? I got this right from the PT mag that I have.I thought that I would pass it on to you. You may want to make a permanent marker post of it. I thought that it is very pertinent to the recent issues. Bro Johnson was happy to get good questions. He also gave the right answers. If he did not have an answer he did not get angry and not shake hands with the questioner. Thornbush

QUESTIONS OF GENERAL
INTEREST
Dec. PT 1935 Pg183 Question: How can we harmonize the fact that the fulness of the Gentiles came in probationarily passover 1878 and the fact that the general call ceased Oct., 1881?

Answer: By the fulness of the Gentiles coming in probationarily passover 1878 we understand that at that time those who had made their calling and election sure before that time, plus those under the call who had not yet made their calling and election sure, plus those who at that time came under the call totaled the entire 144,000. The small sifting involving disgruntled Adventists in 1875 and the large no-ransomism sifting beginning passover 1878 imply that a considerable number lost their crowns between 1874 and 1878, whose crowns were not only assigned to others, but enough of still other Gentiles came under that call during that period, Oct., 1874-April, 1878, as to fill up the predestinated number probationarily. We further understand that no crowns were lost after passover 1878 until immediately before Oct., 1881, when special calls went out to fill up the lapsed crowns to bring them up again to the full 144,000. These considerations prove that all called up to those called from Oct., 1881, onward, were called under the general call, since before Oct., 1881, no special calls were issued. Hence, while the fulness of the Gentiles came in probationarily at the passover of 1878, the general call ceased in Oct., 1881. How do we know this? Because first in Oct., 1881, special calls were made to bring up again, for the first time after passover I878, the called to 144,000. The harvest parallels prove that the general call ceased in 1881; for as the general call to Israel ceased in Oct., 36, proven by the fact that then the call went out to Gentiles to fill up the elect number which Israel failed to furnish, and thereafter Israel furnished only special ones for the call; so the Nominal Church, failing in 1881 to furnish the full number of the faithful called, the call went forth "to certain ones in the field," the Nominal Church from then on furnishing only specially called ones.

bbs said...

Good Comments.

While E4. Page 39 is available in the cyclopedia. Supplemental information such as Letters of General Interest, Questions, etc, isn’t found in the cyber version of the Present Truth. I don’t believe this was done intentionally.

Yes, you are correct. Bros. Johnson, Jolly, Gohlke and Hedman didn’t ostracize Brethren for asking questions. They praised those who sought to “Prove and hold fast to that which is good”. They also didn’t interfere in local class affairs nor did they make a spectacle about leadership.