Thursday, May 24, 2012

Time for it to be understood?

We continue to publish words from a discourse given by a Pilgrim brother. He is totally confused by a reference in E11. We find it strange that he has this desire to find ideas he thinks Bro. Johnson hid away for understanding at some later, unknown date. All he has to do is look at page E11, page 183 for a sentence on tentative justification for those not of the Little Flock. Here is what he says:

"In E11, there are some thoughts on page 170 that I want to share with you. Yeah, 170. As this Millennial picture comes along and the work that has been going on at the present time, Bro. Ralph has brought to the attention or our, at our...two conventions now, that, again the death, as God says, the death of my saints is a pleasure to him. The same thought goes for those that will be of that highest order and during this Epiphany time. I am just going to read the little pertinent part. Uhm, because it's talking here about going back to the, uhm, Exodus. So I am going to...it says..."

For the reference that the brother uses, see E11, page 170 where it begins with "Hence the entirety of..." and ends on 171 with "burning the uneaten parts of the lamb." Here are his comments as he reads this reference:
  • "as far as individual imputations, it was one big piece"
  • "That was for that Little Flock harvest, there was some that would remain for others to use. And he says"
  • "Remember during that particular feast."
  • "This is why I wanted to get our minds...even though we're in the Millennial thousand year period of time, the work is still a Gospel Age work. As he said, 'in this age,' he's talking about the Gospel Age, the Harvest and the second 40-year period of time. Then he goes on"
  • "So, as this fifth elect group or class of people, as we...as God finds when that time comes that there are enough to fulfill that class that he's working with now, no more individual imputations will be made. And then he goes on and says that, uhm..."
  • "There is a lot said in that last little thought. Listen closely..."
  • "We don't believe we are totally depraved at this time, because we have been given that imputation of Christ's merit. We have the Holy Spirit of understanding. Are we still under the curse that Adam brought? Yes. But we are...are we totally depraved as the world of mankind? And the answer should be no. We're not! Here, he goes on and he says"
  • "So, take time, it's the book of Exodus. Take time to read quite a few pages ahead and quite a few pages after that thought. Because it is a thought that is, IT IS NOT NEW TRUTH, as some of the brethren accusing Bro. Ralph of making. It is in that book. It's back in 1934 Present Truth. But it is PRESENT TRUTH. It is not NEW truth. It has been there all that time, but it's now it's time for it to be understood and utilized."

As long as they are looking for hidden truths in E11, maybe he should help the Executive Trustee revisit their confusion on the topic of the Youthful Worthies. If we go by their method of reasoning, perhaps Bro. Johnson changed his mind on the Youthful Worthies again (from the hidden truth they supposedly found in E4) as shown on page 483 where it says, "The Lord’s work that has since been going on has been building the Epiphany Tabernacle, which had its beginning in the call of the Youthful Worthies from 1914 onward."

Thursday, May 17, 2012

BSM's journey to darkness continues

The Bible Standard Ministries has continued its downward path into greater error. Apparently, according to the same Pilgrim who is confused on the topic of Christ's merit, the true Church, the 1,000 year millennial day is now called "the Harvest," the little season is now the "Judgment Day, and "The Consecrated Epiphany Campers" are on trial for life. He contradicts himself stating we are still under a call at this present time? If we are "Perfect" as this confused Pilgrim states; why will the Ancient and Youthful Worthies be under the mediatorial reign? In essence, this Pilgrim is denying the Ransom. 

Transcribed from the audio copy:

In Prison, and Out of Prison Part 2

16:00 - 17:09

…So many of the brethren that we have spoken to over the past few years, have the thought that we have the 1845 years, the harvest, then the 1845 years the harvest, a 1000 years, and the harvest. But you won't find the word harvest on that last 40 years. No place in our writings, or on our charts. It's called the judgement day. It's not a harvest. This is important to our thinking, because the full 1000 years is a harvest, it's not a 40 year harvest. But it's a full 1,000 years, 1874 - 2874 is a harvest.   Thereby we, as we are here today, are living under harvest conditions which would be the new testament, wouldn't it. Our foundation is in the old testament, our instruction is in the new testament, we are being harvested….

17:56 - 18:25

… Then we have the judgement day at the end, when all will be judged, including ourselves, for that final test of approval. So if we can allow our minds to accept we are being harvested today, not just schooled, but harvested, are we found worthy to be garnered into the barn, or be burned as the chaff. That's the only two things the Bible talks about…

22:00 - 22:35

…Some of those, not all, but some of those went on to consecrate. Thereby we have consecrated epiphany campers. Of those, as God chose those that were be able to continue life, and those he took life away from. A separation was done. Those he found great favor in have the privilege of becoming the queen of Sheba class. The highest order of the 10 quasi-elect classes….

31:18 - 31:40

…So when the time comes for the millennial mediatorial reign to begin, and that the bible is silent on, but the ones of the grave, and the sleep of death when they began to arise that will know when that time is. Until that time comes, we are still under a condition of being called by God...

Friday, May 11, 2012

We're now part of the Church?


Since losing their understanding of the Youthful Worthy class as given by Bro. Johnson, the Bible Standard Ministries has continued its downward path into greater error. Apparently, according to the same Pilgrim who is confused on the topic of Christ's merit, we are now part of the Church.

“Bro. Ralph has been trying to...uhm...maybe I shouldn't use the word trying, but I guess that's all right. He's been bringing forth the some progressive thinking to our movement. One of those progressive thinkings that has come along is the idea of the imputed merit for those that are living today. Without that imputation of the merit of the shed blood of our Lord, again going back to the word perfect, we couldn't be perfect...on our own strength, on our own self righteousness. But God, where I think we talked a little bit about this last night too, but, God has for the Church, for that Little Flock part of the church. We are in a terrible habit, and I did that purposely when I used the word “Church”. When we say “Church” our minds go to the Little Flock, don't they? That is not correct. The Little Flock is a part of the Church. The highest part of the Church. But, the other classes, the four very elect classes...”

Saturday, May 5, 2012

Use of John's Baptism Until End of Jewish Harvest

...Note carefully Bro. Johnson's statements, especially the italicized portions. Note that he shows clearly that the reaping of the Jewish Harvest, of those Jews who were not broken off as branches (which would include many who were not living in harmony with the Law Covenant and its spirit and who therefore needed John's Baptism), continued, not only until 36 .D., but until the reaping "ended in Sept., 69 A.D., just as in the parallel Gospel-Age Harvest "the reaping ended in Sept., 1914." Note also that he states that the general call (which began with Cornelius and his household, the first Gentile converts) lasted "from Oct., 36 A.D. to Oct., 1881," and that it was "apart of [i.e., separate from] the Jews of the Jewish Harvest." Furthermore, note his specification that "all Jews not reaped and Spirit-begotten during the Jewish Harvest. [not merely during Israel's 70th week, the 7 years from 29 A.D. to 36 A.D.] were broken off as branches and had to be re-engrafted, but not reaped, when they came into Christ."

See P.T. 1960 Page 11